The REFINE Network

The REFINE Network

Hosted by: Evan Silver & Christopher Hartl

Welcome to The Refine Network with Evan Silver, your go-to podcast for all things salon industry-related. Join us as we dive deep into topics ranging from leadership development, cultivating a positive salon...

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Episodes

Strong Teams Don't Happen by Accident

In this episode, we’re diving into what it really takes to build a connected, high-performing salon team—from group flow and psychological safety to leadership habits and onboarding systems that scale. If you’ve ever...
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Salon Metrics to Stop Tracking—And What to Track Instead

Not all numbers are created equal. In this episode, we break down the metrics that are holding salons back—and the ones that actually drive growth. From service sales per hour to average ticket, we're cutting through...
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Future-Ready Salons: Tech, Truth & The Next Era with Gordon Miller

In this episode, Gordon Miller returns to the podcast for a thought-provoking conversation on the future of the beauty industry. From tech innovations like AI agents and intuitive salon systems to the realities of...
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Leading with Presence | The AVV Approach

In this episode, we’re breaking down the AVV Approach—what it really means to be Available, Visible, and Valuable as a leader. From jumping in to help at the front desk to noticing the tiny details that shape the...
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Inside the Leader’s Retreat: Takeaways, Tears & Team Building

In this bonus episode, we’re fresh off the REFINE Leader’s Retreat and sitting down to talk through what made this one feel different—from emotional breakthroughs and honest conversations to real-time strategy shifts...
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EVOLVING AS A LEADER: How Owning Mistakes Builds Stronger Teams

In this episode, we sit down with salon owner and industry leader Wendy Bélanger for an honest, insightful conversation about leadership, change, and the lessons no one talks about. From opening a second business...
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DIFFICULT GUESTS | Protecting Your Team & Winning the Relationship

In this episode, we’re digging into how to handle difficult guests, protect your team, and still win the relationship. We share real stories from behind the scenes—including guests who crossed the line—and break down...
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Leadership, Legacy & Ego with Sam Villa

In this episode, Sam Villa joins us for a raw and inspiring conversation on what it really takes to build a legacy in the beauty industry. We talk about leadership, ego, humility, and mentorship, and Sam shares...
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Bringing Social Media Into Your Salon (Without Breaking the Bank)

In this episode, we dive into authenticity in beauty, personal expression, and the power of individuality—both for stylists and their clients. We also break down how salons can build a social media role, what...
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The Pain of Discipline vs. Disappointment: The Leadership Choice You Must Make

Leadership isn’t just about managing a team—it’s about making the right choices, even when they’re hard. In this episode, we break down the real reason many salon owners struggle with leadership, why investing in...
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Leading the Next Generation: Are You a Leader Worth Following?

Hiring and retaining young stylists has changed—but has your leadership approach evolved with it? In this episode, we challenge outdated mindsets around new hires, break down tiered commission strategies that work,...
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Stick It to Mediocrity: How One Simple Exercise Revolutionizes Your Team

Ever feel like getting your team to tackle the chore list is an uphill battle?   In this episode, we break down a simple yet powerful exercise that shifts the mindset from obligation to ownership. By using post-it...
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